but when you say that and then you send these folks out there or rush limbaugh back at the end of may saying that obama hates white people. pat buchanan saying white men are, quote, experiencing exactly what black people experienced during segregation, which is, of course, absurd, that kind of rhetoric underlying this opposition makes it very hard for me to think that race is not in the picture. >> okay. so then if we're going to put blame on anyone's shoulders, whose fault is it anyway? is it people buying in the rhetoric or some of the people you mention, some of the conservative talk show hosts there. should they be more responsible with their language because people may be buying into what they're saying and not realizing that it's coded racism. >> well, words have consequences, and i think if you're going to have a microphone and you're going to speak to millions of listeners every day, you have a responsibility to, first of all, do your homework so you don't tell lies about the health care bill and act like they're going to kill grandma and then send sarah palin out there with a